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Language « Thread Started on Jun 19, 2009, 10:56pm »
If certain language is not allowed on these boards, the rules for posting fan fiction should state that. As it is, the rules say that no fan fiction will be edited, but in fact when I posted the first chapter of a story today, I noticed that the boards automatically "cleaned up" a line of dialogue that had a four-letter word: The phrase "Oh sh--" was replaced with "Oh nuts." It was not a change I wanted, so I deleted the post.
It was only by accident or luck that I noticed this change. But it's only fair to let authors know that this will happen, and which words are forbidden and what they will be replaced with. That way the author can either accept those automatic changes, or make edits of his/her own choosing, or decide the fic is not appropriate for this board and not post it.
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Re: Language « Reply #1 on Jun 19, 2009, 11:57pm »
The board has an automatic filter which changes words. On my own site I went in and made some alterations after t e a s p o o n turned into teathingy or some such nonsense. I think it's a buggy deal myself. I don't know if it's something that Es and Primrose have thought about.
It is possible to make it so that these words do not get altered, but that would be up to them to decide if they want to make some changes there. If they don't want to alter that . . . I would very much love it if they would at least make it so that it would only change whole words only . . . and what on earth is wrong with the word s p o o n anyway? It's an eating utencil. Anyway, if they don't want to change that, you are right that they should put in a warning.
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Re: Language « Reply #2 on Jun 20, 2009, 7:29am »
S p o o n? Okay, that's just bizarre, and really irritating. Makes me think I'm going to have to run through the fics I've already posted to uncover any completely innocuous words that may have been changed.
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Re: Language « Reply #4 on Jun 20, 2009, 1:52pm »
for bringing this up, Teresa -- and good points, all of you!
StoryGirl, you're right...the language filter kind of slipped our minds. I had set it to allow a good chunk of words, but apparently I missed some...or they got through the cracks.
However, after reading this, I've gone in and fixed some things so the filter shouldn't be quite as sensitive. It'll allow for mild cursing (like you would utter when someone cuts you off, or you drop something heavy on your foot *wink* ) just not the "f-bomb". Hopefully those changes should automatically implement throughout what's already posted here.
Again, thank you for bringing this to our attention!
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Re: Language « Reply #5 on Jun 20, 2009, 2:51pm »
Okay, that's good to know. I do think it should be clarified in the rules -- if the "f-bomb" is forbidden, then writers should know before posting. The "Oh nuts" story also has the occasional "f-bomb" in later chapters, and I'm not really up for the effort of making a special cleaned-up edit, so I'll just not post it here.
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Re: Language « Reply #6 on Jun 20, 2009, 5:17pm »
No problem. I'll get on clarifying that.
Go ahead and post the "Oh nuts" (I've tweaked the filter, so although that word will still be semi-filtered, it won't change to a totally different word like it did before) story if you wish -- I'd actually like to read it.
The word(s) aren't technically forbidden and there's really no special clean-up necessary. It'll just edit all instances of that particular curse word to something like f**k. 'Tis up to you, my dear.
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Re: Language « Reply #7 on Jun 20, 2009, 5:42pm »
I just checked and the item I mentioned is correctly done now, so it looks like you are right. That's the only thing I've come across where something like that happened to my stuff. I don't use much in the way of language. There is an instance in a story I don't have here, because that story is quoting directly from Charmed there and I don't change the wording. It's just too ingrained in me not to use those words . . . if they are needed in certain stories, I let Es add them. She knows which ones I mean. Might be something in "Turning the Page of Destiny" though I don't know for sure. I think there's something in "Dying Day".
Re: Language « Reply #8 on Jun 23, 2009, 12:37pm »
I've been reading this topic and it's very interesting. Like most of you, I don't like using the f-bomb and I don't really think the Halliwells would, since I think that using it and other such words show a lack of the vocabulary that I think the Halliwells would have to have in order to properly write spells. And for the second generation to use f-bombs makes less sense to me because I'm sure they would've picked up on their mother's/aunt's word, "Crap". As soon as I read a Halliwell using the f-bomb rather than "Crap", I no longer think it's really a Halliwell, but an alternate Halliwell, although I can still enjoy the fic.
BUT that's ES'S way of thinking. If an author doesn't agree with my way of thinking or Primrose's, it shouldn't reflect the way we administer our own rules, because Teresa is exactly correct. Here's the way the rules read: (italics mine)
8. Please remember, there will be no editing of any fanfiction, but we ask you to please remember to accurately rate your fanfictions:
K=Kids (Suitable for all ages. Content should be free of any violence and/or sexual themes.)
T=Teens (Suitable for teens, 13 years and older, with some violence, and minor suggestive but non-explicit sexual themes.)
M=Mature (Not suitable for children below the age of 16 with strong but non-explicit sexual themes and references to violence.)
MA=Mature Adults (Content is only suitable for mature adults. May contain strong explicit sexual themes and/or strong explicit violence.)
Here are some examples:
VIOLENCE:
Piper tells Phoebe that she had to kill Cole without going into details. (Rated K) Piper explodes Cole without the author going into details. (Rated T) Piper tells Phoebe that she had to kill Cole and tells her about all the guts and all the blood shooting out of Cole (Rated M) Piper tortures Cole and we are told each and every minor detail. (Rated MA)
SEXUAL:
Piper hugs Leo and kisses his cheek. (Rated K). Piper lies in bed with her clothes on and gives Leo an open-mouthed kiss. (Rated T) Piper takes her clothes off and takes Leo's clothes off and makes love to Leo, leaving nothing to the readers' imagination, (Rated M) Paige and Phoebe take their clothes off and make love to each other, leaving nothing to the readers' imagination. (Rated MA)
Most Charmed shows would be rated T. If you are over the age of 18, we won't prevent you from posting M & MA rated fanfictions, but Primrose Empath and Esmeralda warn you--we won't read and review them, especially the MA ones!!
PLEASE NOTE: If we discover that a child under the age of 18 is posting a fanfiction that should be rated M or MA (especially if that child is lying about their age in order to post such a fic, as has happened at other sites), that child will be banned and their posts deleted. Children under the age of 18 will not be allowed to post adult material at this site, especially that of a sexual content.
If we do not agree with the rating you gave your fanfiction, we reserve the right to edit that rating only.
I think this is what Teresa read and what she thinks we're not following. We said that we wouldn't edit fics as long as they're rated properly and that should include ProBoard's automatic filter. If it comes back to bite us, which it could, we can always edit the rules later, since language isn't specifically mentioned.
Re: Language « Reply #10 on Jun 23, 2009, 12:59pm »
*nods* You're right, Primrose. At this point I think all of our members have shown fantastic judgement in their choice of language. If everyone keeps in mind that any fic that includes things that wouldn't have been shown on Charmed (like the f-bomb) should be rated either an M or an MA, and if readers are warned by that rating that they might read something they don't want to read, that should work fine.
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Okay, that's just bizarre, and really irritating. Makes me think I'm going to have to run through the fics I've already posted to uncover any completely innocuous words that may have been changed.
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Gotcha. I'm not a huge fan of those words either, but after reading what you've posted, Es, I concur.